KFWE NYC 2016 – a return to the norm with a VIP expierance

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20160229_182508Well in case you were tracking my posts leading up the 2016 KFWE NYC event, I was slightly critical of last year’s NYC event while I loved the LA event – which was in the W Hotel. This year, the NYC KFWE (which happened last night) was quite the event – as it returned to Pier 60, and had a VIP session to boot.

The VIP session was a nod to the epic VIP session of LA’s 2015 event and the 2016 LA KFWE event (tomorrow night), looks to be even more insane!

The doors opened for trade yesterday at Noon and closed at 4PM. Within 30 minutes the place was crowded, which is really good news. Trade is all about getting press about what kosher wine is and where it is heading. Yes, I have spoken many times about the fact that Royal Wines is the 900 pound gorilla – and it has the ability to crowd the market and push out its competitors as it flexes its muscles. Still, we need exactly what happened yesterday. The place was filled with reporters and wine buyers and critics tasting wines and being educated about the current state of affairs of the kosher wine world.

People still think kosher wine is nasty stuff (just search kosher wine on twitter), and this video and others are exactly what we need to spread the word that kosher wine has grown up, and continues improving every year! The reason for that – kosher wine consumers are growing by leaps and bounds and they want better food and better wine! Just look at the numbers; CBS2 reports that the kosher wine business is now doing $28 million a year and sales and growing.

Now personally, that number is pure bunk, it is far higher. Last year there were millions of bottles of Bartenura Blue Bottle sold, some report 5M other more like 9M. At 12 dollars a pop – the 28 million dollar number is either embarrassed or obliterated – all together. Add to that the roughly 1M bottles of wine produced by Herzog Winery at a blended average of 15 dollars a pop (the majority of their wines are less but they have many more expensive wines as well) – and that adds another 15M to the pot. Next add in the 13M dollars in Israeli exported wine sold in the USA (according to 2011 numbers which pale in comparison to 2015 numbers) – and you start to see how absurd that number of 28M really is. Where the number comes from is beyond me. Finally, we cannot ignore the amount of wine made in Europe and South America or here in the USA from the kosher California wineries (ignoring Herzog of course as that was cited earlier).

Now worldwide consumption of kosher wine is another entirely DIFFERENT number of course! Kosher wine produced in Israel (the vast majority of all the wine produced in Israel overall) – clocks in at 170M – again using a very old and conservative number (though part of that number is in the Israeli export number citied above).

IMHO, a VERY conservative number would be 250M of kosher worldwide consumption. In the USA that number is closer to 90M (again very conservative numbers)!

With those kinds of numbers, it is only a matter of time until companies, other than Royal start to take notice, and then it will get really interesting! Till then, we will need to keep pushing events like last night and tomorrow night (in LA)! These kinds of events shine the spotlight on this growing wine segment and one worthy of other company’s attention as well!

Personally, I was there to help my friend – Moises Cohen and Elvi Wines. Sadly, Moises was busy with family issues and as much as I was asked what wine I liked the most (most annoying part of the event – and more on that in a bit), I was asked where is Moises?

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  1. Jeff Morgan Avatar

    Dude…very interesting musings! Am also glad you liked the 2009 Solomon so much. But you’ve called it Capcanes Solomon Lot 70. Maybe you can write a little postscript correction?

    Sorry we won’t be in L.A.

    All the best,

    Jeff

    1. winemusings Avatar

      Fixed boss, thanks!!

  2. Aaron Hollander Avatar

    The 2012 Maison Riviere wines are $20-$25. I too like the Picampeau better.

    1. winemusings Avatar

      Thanks! For that price, it may well be a QPR wine. Are both the same price?

  3. Aron L Avatar

    Yes, the Maison Riviere wines are the same price @ 20-25 -as Aaron said.

  4. NG Avatar

    Nice catch on ridiculous CBS2 guesstimate.

  5. […] this blog for the past month, I have trumpeted the upcoming KFWE events in both NYC and LA. The NYC event went off without a hitch, a truly improved version over the past few years, and I had much hope for the LA event, as last year – it was the […]

  6. Ezra Avatar

    Out of curiosity, are the non-mevushal wines at the kfwe events in ny and la poured only by Jews and only shomer Shabbat Jews or is this not something most of the wines/wineries ensure?
    Btw we missed you last year by the Seder, I was by your brothers house for the first Seder but I was told you come for the second Seder.
    I am not sure if I will have the esteemed privilege of doing the first Seder by your brother this year, but if I do, is there any chance we can coordinate having your presence at that Seder?

    1. winemusings Avatar

      This is a question that comes up much more at tastings in Israel, where the question is less pertinent. In the USA, all tastings that I know of, have religious Jews pouring the wines. They even clean the glasses out at every pour. We will not be in Chicago for Passover. Have a great one.

      1. Ezra Avatar

        Thanks for the info regarding the pouring.
        We will miss you over Passover. Are you planning on visiting anytime in the near future? I’m still looking forward to getting anther game of softball.

  7. Ezra Avatar

    What’re your thoughts on the 2011 Teperberg limited edition Petit Verdot?
    Thanks

      1. Ezra Avatar

        Thank you for the link, my apologies for. not searching it before asking. One more wine in question, chateau de galiliee 2010 merlot (90%merlot 10% Cabernet Sauvignon)

  8. winemusings Avatar

    Sorry Ezra – not a wine I have had. Some folks I know call it Israeli wine – which makes me not plonk down 100 NIS for it. More than that I have no idea – sorry!

    1. Ezra Avatar

      I have a few bottles regarding which I wanted to get your opinion.
      Have you ever heard of La Domainie Bordeaux from France. I got a few bottles of he 2014 and I wasn’t sure what to expect.
      Also what’s your opinion on 2011 yiron, dalton merlot reserve 2010, shiloh shor barbera 2011, bartenura rosso toscano 2012?
      One last question do you think the 2005 yiron still has any years left in cellar ing time or is it already in drink up mode?
      Thanks

      1. winemusings Avatar

        Which La Domainie Bordeaux? I need the name of the house/winery? I have lost love for Yiron, though the 12 is OK in a pinch. Dalton Reserve Merlot 2010 was OK, but the newer vintage is definitely on my list for passover that I just posted. The Shiloh wines here in the USA, do not taste the same as they do in Israel, so I did not put them on my top wines for Passover. The Toscano 2012, is an ok wine, but there are better options. Yiron 2005 was always a great and cellar friend, but it is in drink up/now and not for much more time at all.

  9. Ezra Avatar

    Ty for your informative response.
    Regarding the la domainie, I’m not sure how to answer that question. I thought la domainie was the winery. Let me know if there’s a way or means to send u a pic of the label.
    I do see that it on the back it says estate produced and bottled and there’s a number underneath 33242A à les Leves 33 220.
    On the front it has
    MIS EN BOTEILLE PAR UNIVITIS
    LES LÈVES-GIRONDE-FRANCE

  10. […] case that sounds familiar – well that is because the KFWE NYC in February, returned to Pier 60, which is next door to this summer event. The event will be as good packed as […]

  11. […] The event at Chelsea Piers is taking place on Monday, February 13th, 2017. Sadly, the VIP session has already been sold-out, and the older coupon code has expired. The non-VIP session is available, and the Chelsea Piers location will make for a far more enjoyable and manageable experience, just l…. […]

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